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December 21, 2020 Seasonal Forecasts: Part II, NOAA Comparison with JAMSTEC

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Written by Sig Silber

We published the NOAA Long-Term Forecast Part I on December 19, 2020. Here we compare the NOAA forecast for Alaska and CONUS with the JAMSTEC forecast. It is easier to see the disagreements by comparing the maps which we show side by side in a table with a summary of the comparison. Obviously, the further out you look, the less confidence you have in the forecasts and thus the differences in the forecasts. Also provided are the JAMSTEC World Forecasts. In Part I, we showed the differences in the assumptions with respect to ENSO and I have repeated them in this article. Again this month, it seems like JAMSTEC shows the Polar Branch of the Jet Stream farther north than NOAA has it.

NOAA v. JAMSTEC


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C. Comparison of the NOAA and JAMSTEC Forecasts

Below is the comparison of the NOAA and JAMSTEC temperature and precipitation forecast maps for three time-periods and from left to right the NOAA forecast for Alaska and CONUS (the contiguous mid-latitude U.S) and then JAMSTEC for North America (which includes Canada and Mexico). The NOAA forecast maps can be clicked on to enlarge. The JAMSTEC maps in the table are not set up to be clicked on to enlarge (because we have no larger version of them). We have concluded that these smaller images work fine for comparison purposes. Later in the article, we show the World Forecasts.

JAMSTEC works with three-month seasons: Winter: DJF, Spring: MAM, and Summer JJA. Out of each three months, there is one where the months in the two forecasts align perfectly for the first time period. This is not one of those months so for the first period we are comparing DJF for JAMSTEC and JFM for NOAA. It is not perfect but probably ok.

In addition to the value of comparing the JAMSTEC and NOAA forecasts, the JAMSTEC forecast by showing North America provides more context for the Alaska and CONUS Forecasts as the temperature and precipitation patterns cover North America, not just Alaska and CONUS.

Map Comparisons and our Comments

Temperature

NOAA Alaska Plus CONUSJAMSTEC North America

WINTER

JFM 2020 for NOAA

DJF 2020-2021 for JAMSTEC

https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/predictions/long_range/lead01/off01_temp.gif

SPRING

MAM 2021

Summer

JJA 2021

For Winter: Similar to last month, JAMSTEC has the Jet Stream farther north so the cool anomaly shown by NOAA is in Canada in the JAMSTEC forecast. This also impacts Alaska which is cooler in the JAMSTEC forecast
For Spring: Similar to winter, JAMSTEC shows the cool anomaly farther north so it barely impacts CONUS and Alaska is cooler than forecast by NOAA.
For Summer: Pretty much the same story but JAMSTEC shows the cool anomaly moving east and NOAA is showing the remnant of the EC area in North Central CONUS. JAMSTEC is showing some EC area in the Northwest and overall a less intense warm anomaly. Whether one wants to put a lot of reliance on either forecast that far out is an open question.

Precipitation

NOAA Alaska Plus CONUSJAMSTEC North America

WINTER

JFM 2020 for NOAA

DJF 2020-2021 for JAMSTEC

SPRING

MAM 2021

Dec-Jan-Feb 2020/21

Summer

JJA 2021

https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/predictions/long_range/lead08/off08_prcp.gif
For Winter:There is lot of similarity here.
For Spring: NOAA and JAMSTEC agree on a dry Southwest but not on a wet Great Lakes area. So the extent that JAMSTEC shows a wet anomly, it is in the Southeast.
For Summer: Three seasons is a long way out. But there is close to total disagreement here. JAMSTEC shows a very dry Great Plains and a decent Monsoon for Arizona. The wet anomaly shown by NOAA is muted in the JAMSTEC forecast except for Florida. The dry Northwest shows up farther east in the JAMSTEC forecast.

JAMSTEC World Forecasts

This month our comments are taken directly from the JAMSTEC discussion. Now that JAMSTEC has a number of models, we are not exactly sure of the best one to display and the forecasts vary somewhat model to model. We are using their newest model and the version which does not average the result with the original model. We assume that the JAMSTEC discussion considers their various models and provides their assessment having considered their full suite of models. The wording in the JAMSTEC discussion is stilted possibly because it is a translation from the Japanese version. It reads pretty well this month.

Winter which is DJF 2020-2021

Temperature
http://www.jamstec.go.jp/aplinfo/sintexf/2017/forecast/temp2.glob.SON2020.1jul2020.F23DVAR.gif
Precipitation
http://www.jamstec.go.jp/aplinfo/sintexf/2017/forecast/temp2.glob.SON2020.1jul2020.F23DVAR.gif
JAMSTEC says: “On a seasonal scale, the SINTEX-F predicts that most part of the globe will experience a warmer-than-normal condition in boreal winter except for Alaska, northern Brazil, southwestern Australia, southern Saudi Arabia, Indochina Peninsula, and India.” “As regards to the seasonally averaged rainfall in boreal winter, a drier-than-normal condition is predicted for southern U.S.A., eastern Brazil, La Plata Basin, southwestern Africa, southern Europe facing the Mediterranean Sea, some part of the Middle East, eastern China, and Indonesia. In contrast, Canada, most part of Brazil, western/eastern Australia, eastern part of South Africa, Philippines, and northern Europe will experience a wetter-than-normal condition.” “The model predicts most part of Japan will experience warmer-than-normal condition in winter and spring as a seasonal average. As regards to the seasonally averaged rainfall, most part of Japan (except for Hokkaido) will experience a drier-than-normal condition in winter.

Spring which is MAM 2001

http://www.jamstec.go.jp/aplinfo/sintexf/2017/forecast/temp2.glob.DJF2021.1jul2020.F23DVAR.gif
Precipitation
http://www.jamstec.go.jp/aplinfo/sintexf/2017/forecast/temp2.glob.DJF2021.1jul2020.F23DVAR.gif“
JAMSTEC says: “In boreal spring, the model predicts persistence of a similar condition [Editor’s Note: as forecast for winter with respect to temperature].” “In boreal spring, a wetter-than-normal condition is predicted for most part of Canada, Mexico, northwestern Brazil, northern Australia, Indochina Peninsula, Philippines, West Africa, northern Europe, and eastern Russia. In contrast, most part of U.S.A (including California), southern Europe, southeastern China, and Indonesia will experience a drier-than-normal condition.” “The model predicts most part of Japan will experience warmer-than-normal condition in winter and spring as a seasonal average… In spring, western part of Japan will experience slightly drier-than-normal conditions.”

And Summer which is JJA 2021

Temperature
http://www.jamstec.go.jp/aplinfo/sintexf/2017/forecast/temp2.glob.MAM2021.1jul2020.F23DVAR.gif
Precipitation
http://www.jamstec.go.jp/aplinfo/sintexf/2017/forecast/temp2.glob.MAM2021.1jul2020.F23DVAR.gif
JAMSTEC does not comment on the third period in their discussion. We assume this represents the lower level of confidence that far out. But you can see what it shows on the maps. Europe looks dry.

D. Conclusion

As usual, there is some disagreement between NOAA and JAMSTEC. If we were looking at North America as a whole, the disagreement would be less than when we look at only CONUS as some of the features shown by NOAA to be in CONUS are shown by JAMSTEC to be a bit farther north.

It is difficult to relate the differences in the forecast to differences in assumptions on ENSO. But JAMSTEC tends to consider other factors that may not be considered by NOAA. On the other hand, the new versions of the JAMSTEC model are early in their usage and may not have been fully calibrated. I do not think I have gone into it in detail but when it comes to models we need to recognize that there are limitations and NOAA and JAMSTEC use very different approaches which I have summarized in the below table.

Shorter TermIntermediate-Term
NOAADeterministicStatistical
JAMSTECDeterministicDeterministic (may also use statistical methods)
AssessmentGenerally Considered to be reliable for 14 to 28 daysErrors build up in deterministic models and statistical models generally have insufficient historical data to be reliable

So it is kind of a pick your poison choice. But both agencies have great skill at employing approaches that have inherent limitations.

E. Additional Information

JAMSTEC Discussion

We provided the full JAMSTEC Discussion in Part I. We repeat it here.

Dec. 17, 2020 Prediction from 1st Dec., 2020

ENSO forecast:

As predicted earlier, observation now shows a La Nina Modoki-like state. The SINTEX-F predicts that this La Nina Modoki-like state will persist in this boreal winter. Then, it will start to decay from the boreal spring of 2021. We need to be careful of its impact as it may be different from that of a canonical La Nina.

Indian Ocean forecast:

Observation shows that the tropical Indian Ocean is a neutral state. The ensemble mean prediction suggests that the present condition will persist in the first half of 2021.

Regional forecast:

On a seasonal scale, the SINTEX-F predicts that most part of the globe will experience a warmer-than-normal condition in boreal winter except for Alaska, northern Brazil, southwestern Australia, southern Saudi Arabia, Indochina Peninsula, and India. In boreal spring, the model predicts persistence of a similar condition.

As regards to the seasonally averaged rainfall in boreal winter, a drier-than-normal condition is predicted for southern U.S.A., eastern Brazil, La Plata Basin, southwestern Africa, southern Europe facing the Mediterranean Sea, some part of the Middle East, eastern China, and Indonesia. In contrast, Canada, most part of Brazil, western/eastern Australia, eastern part of South Africa, Philippines, and northern Europe will experience a wetter-than-normal condition. In boreal spring, a wetter-than-normal condition is predicted for most part of Canada, Mexico, northwestern Brazil, northern Australia, Indochina Peninsula, Philippines, West Africa, northern Europe, and eastern Russia. In contrast, most part of U.S.A (including California), southern Europe, southeastern China, and Indonesia will experience a drier-than-normal condition.

The model predicts most part of Japan will experience warmer-than-normal condition in winter and spring as a seasonal average. As regards to the seasonally averaged rainfall, most part of Japan (except for Hokkaido) will experience a drier-than-normal condition in winter. In spring, western part of Japan will experience slightly drier-than-normal conditions.

ENSO Phase

We showed some of this information in Part I am repeating it with some additions here.

ENSO Considerations

We have covered some of this when we reported on the IRI/CPC analysis on December 10, 2020.

ENSO Report December 10, 2020

This is the early December analysis which is based on a survey of meteorologists.

You can see that for the AMJ period the odds are about even for La Nina Versus ENSO Neutral. I kind of focus on the middle month which in this case is May.

The image on the left is probably the information that had the most impact on this NOAA forecast. How does it compare to the one on the right? It extends the La Nina from MAM 2021 to possibly AMJ 2021.

With NOAA it is sometimes hard to know what information they used. I could go back and reread the discussion. The following was issued on December 18, 2020 so they probably did not have it or use it. It is also different from the early forecast which is based on a survey of meteorologists as this is based on computer models.

It looks a lot different with the La Nina ending by AMJ think May. It also suggests that we need to start thinking about the next El Nino.

Some version of the below was available to NOAA but only last month’s was available to me. It also was issued on December 18, 2020

Of most interest are the red, green and blue lines. When do they intersect -0.5C? Get your straightedge out or just fold a piece of paper. It looks like MAM or AMJ Which poiints to April or May. These are all different models and there is a lot of scatter so it is really hard to decide what to believe. But all the models (but one) are trending up so from a model perspective it is just a question of the precise time that this La Nina ends.

NOAA has their own proprietary model which they rarely use. It is not exactly clear why they shun their own model.

CFSv2 spread and bias correct ENSO forecast

It pretty much agrees with the IRI-CPC survey data but perhaps shortens the La Nina by one more month.

In most cases, I freeze the models as of the date of publication but for this one, I am going to just let the above model run so if you refer to the article in the future, the values in the above may not relate well to the discussion. But I am doing that so if you refer to this article in say two weeks, you will see if there has been any change in the forecast from this model.

Comparison models would include JAMSTEC

JAMSTEC sees the La Nina become ENSO Neutral at about the same time as does NOAA.

And the JAMSTEC Modoki Index

Modoki Index

I am not sure what to make of this. But JAMSTEC is even more confident that this La Nina will behave like a La Nina Modoki. My best guess is that the weather patterns may be shifted a bit to the west more than predicted by NOAA. This graphic suggests the Modoki characteristics of this La Nina might end sooner than the La Nina ends.

And the Australian BOM

BOM sees the La Nina ending essentially right now. They use a slightly different criteria probably because they are interested in the impacts on Australia. But even with the U.S. criteria they are predicting a rapid end of this La Nina. I don’t agree with that analysis.

I am going to introduce another graphic which is the current view of the subsurface along the Equator.

Last MonthThis Month

I do not see much change. So I am not sure this La Nina will end as quickly as the experts think.

Here is an updated version which may or may not have been available to NOAA for their use in making the forecast that they issued on December 17, 2020

I do not see any change. In terms of the impact on weather, only the surface counts. But the subsurface is what will replace the surfact at some point.

Now let us look at the SOI which is used to confirm the La Nina. I did not present this graphic in Part I.

http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/enso/monitoring/soi30.png

This is not a forecast but shows the current situation which confirms that we are in a La Nina.

From the BOM Glossary

The Southern Oscillation Index, or SOI, gives an indication of the development and intensity of El Nino or La Nina events in the Pacific Ocean. The SOI is calculated using the pressure differences between Tahiti and Darwin.

Sustained negative values of the SOI below 7 often indicate El Nino episodes. These negative values are usually accompanied by sustained warming of the central and eastern tropical Pacific Ocean, a decrease in the strength of the Pacific Trade Winds, and a reduction in winter and spring rainfall over much of eastern Australia and the Top End. You can read more about historical El Nino events and their effect on Australia in the Detailed analysis of past El Nino events.

Sustained positive values of the SOI above +7 are typical of a La Nina episode. They are associated with stronger Pacific trade winds and warmer sea temperatures to the north of Australia. Waters in the central and eastern tropical Pacific Ocean become cooler during this time. Together these give an increased probability that eastern and northern Australia will be wetter than normal. You can read more about historical La Nina events and their effect on Australia in the Detailed analysis of past La Nina events.

I have not frozen the SOI graphic so we will be able to track the SOI in this article. It is not indicating a very strong La Nina so far.

La Nina Modoki

There is not a lot of information on this. There appear to be impacts on China and Australia. But how about the U.S.? This is the closest I could find.

This abstract (link for full report) might be informative

Abstract

The present work identifies two types of La Nina based on the spatial distribution of sea surface temperature (SST) anomaly. In contrast to the eastern Pacific (EP) La Nina event, a new type of La Nina (central Pacific, or CP La Nina) is featured by the SST cooling center over the CP. These two types of La Nina exhibit a fundamental difference in SST anomaly evolution: the EP La Nina shows a westward propagation feature while the CP La Nina exhibits a standing feature over the CP. The two types of La Nina can give rise to a significantly different teleconnection around the globe. As a response to the EP La Nina, the North Atlantic (NA)-Western European (WE) region experiences the atmospheric anomaly resembling a negative North Atlantic Oscillation (NAO) pattern accompanied by a weakening Atlantic jet. It leads to a cooler and drier than normal winter over Western Europe. However, the CP La Nina has a roughly opposing impact on the NA-WE climate. A positive NAO-like climate anomaly is observed with a strengthening Atlantic jet, and there appears a warmer and wetter than normal winter over Western Europe. Modeling experiments indicate that the above contrasting atmospheric anomalies are mainly attributed to the different SST cooling patterns for the two types of La Nina. Mixing up their signals would lead to difficulty in seasonal prediction of regional climate. Since the La Nina-related SST anomaly is clearly observed during the developing autumn, the associated winter climate anomalies over Western Europe could be predicted a season in advance.

The key sentence from the above is: “And there appears a warmer and wetter than normal winter over Western Europe.” Is this reflected in the JAMSTEC maps? I do not see it in the JAMSTEC World Forecast. Perhaps a little bit. .

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