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Seasonal Forecasts Issued In July Of 2019: Part II, NOAA Comparison With JAMSTEC

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Written by Sig Silber

We published the NOAA Long-Term Forecast Friday Night and it can be accessed here. In Part II (this post), we compare the NOAA forecast for Alaska and CONUS with the JAMSTEC forecast and also attempt to provide some explanation for the differences. The differences in the weather forecasts may be somewhat related to how each agency deals with the western displacement of the warm anomaly along the Equator in the Pacific. Our report provides the JAMSTEC forecasts for the whole World. In parts of the world, the interaction between the IOD and the EL Nino are important and JAMSTEC is experienced in that area. In our report, we also pay special attention to Europe.

NOAA v. JAMSTEC


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Prologue

When discussing ENSO we usually focus on the NINO 3.4 Index. It seems to me that Asian forecasters pay more attention than NOAA to other parts of the NINO measurement area and the pattern of sea surface temperatures in the Pacific. We do not know for sure the extent to which this might explain the differences in the forecasts because the forecasts for Nino 3.4 also varies between NOAA and JAMSTEC and within NOAA.

Niño Regions

From the JAMSTEC discussion shown later.

Warmer-than-normal sea surface temperature is observed now for the central tropical Pacific. As predicted earlier, this is similar to the El Niño Modoki-like state. The SINTEX-F predicts the El Niño Modoki-like state will persist until late summer. We need to be careful of its impact, as it may be different from that of the canonical El Niño. Then, the tropical Pacific is expected to return to a normal state by mid-autumn.

You can see the locations of the warm anomaly in this graphic.

SST Anomalies July 15, 2019

The warm anomaly is westward displaced i.e. a Modoki. Take a look at the situation on the Dateline. Remember this is the surface. Some other graphic I will show later is the subsurface. The surface determines the weather. The subsurface determines future surface conditions.

Now we compare the two NOAA forecasts with the JAMSTEC forecast. We do it again later in the article but this comparison may be easier to see. The first image is the Early-July IRI-CDC ENSO probabilities. The second image is the JAMSTEC proprietary forecast model for the Nino 3.4 Index. The third is the NOAA proprietary model CFSv2.

July 11, 2019

CFSv2 spread and bias correct ENSO forecast

They are not lined up perfectly but one can easily compare them. The model results are a bit different. Two forecasts are shown for NOAA. It is not always clear which they use. More than likely they at least place more weight on the IRI-CPC forecast. Later we see the JAMSTEC Modoki Index which may play a large role in the differences in the forecasts.

This forecast came out probably after the NOAA forecast was released on July18. And it may reflect the possibility of Kelvin Wave#5. This all attests to the difficulty of making forecasts and partially explains why different forecasts are different.

This forecast shows the probabilities close to equal but with the El Nino probabilities slightly higher than the Neutral probabilities.This forecast came out on July 19, 2019 and was not mentioned in the July 18, 2019 NOAA discussion. I mention it to point out how volatile the situation is.

One of the reasons for doing this comparison is it provides the ability to create our own updated forecast as we see the assumptions made by each agency be confirmed or not. That is especially true when the actuals start coming within the range of the two sets of assumptons. Weather is not linear so it is more complex than scaling the solution to where the actuals are showing up relative to the two versions of the assumtions but with a little imagination one might be able to sort it out. You will be able to better understand what I have just said as we look at the two different forecasts.

C. Now to our full report. (Sections A and B were covered in Part I which can be accessed here)

This report is organized into a summary that has two tables of graphics that show the temperature and precipitation forecasts for the upcoming three seasons, a brief discussion of the ENSO assumptions by both NOAA and JAMSTEC and then the JAMSTEC Agency discussion and then a comparison of the two forecasts which is basically an expansion of the summary table.

Summary of the NOAA and JAMSTEC Forecasts

For those who want a quick synopsis of the two forecasts, below is a summary of the temperature and precipitation forecasts for three time-periods and from left to right the NOAA forecast for Alaska and CONUS (the contiguous mid-latitude U.S), then JAMSTEC for North America (which includes Canada and Mexico), and then JAMSTEC for Europe and surrounding areas. Larger graphics are provided later in the report. (the graphics in the Summary Table are not set up to be clicked on to enlarge). The Summary Table is kind of a tease to keep you reading but you can see the evolution of the weather pattern through Summer, Fall, and then into Winter. For some readers, these two sets of summary graphics may be all the information they wish to look at and that is fine.

In addition to the value of comparing the JAMSTEC and NOAA forecasts, the JAMSTEC forecast by showing North America provides more context for the Alaska and CONUS Forecasts as the temperature and precipitation patterns cover North America, not just Alaska and CONUS. Similarly, when I extract Europe from the JAMSTEC World Map, I include enough of North Africa and Eurasia to provide context.

Temperature

NOAA Alaska Plus CONUSJAMSTEC North AmericaJAMSTEC Europe

Fall

SON 2019

SON 2019 Temperature Issued on July 18, 2019SON - 2019 Temperature based on JAMSTEC July 1, 2019 ForecastSON - 2019 Europe Temperature based on JAMSTEC July 1, 2019 Forecast

Winter

DJF 2019-2020

DJF 2019 - 2020 Temperature Issued on July 18, 2019DJF 2019 - 2020 NA Temperature based on July 1, 2019 JAMSTEC ForecastDJF 2019-2020 Europe Temperature Based on July 1, 2019 Jamstec Forecast

Spring

MAM 2020

MAM 2020 Temperature Issued July 18, 2019MAM 2010 NA Temperature based on July 1, 2019MAM - 2020 Europe Temperature based on July 1, 2019
I thought it would be useful to summarize my comments from the later detailed analysis. Here they are. Fall: Fairly similar. Winter: JAMSTEC shows a cool Southern Rockies and Texas while NOAA has everything warm but with lower probabilities than in the Fall. Spring: Here there is major disagreement but some agreement as the NOAA EC area is the same as the JAMSTEC cool anomaly but JAMSTEC shows other parts of CONUS cool.
For Europe, it is again warm, warm, warm. Spring looks like it could be dangerously warm for European Russia.

Precipitation

NOAA Alaska Plus CONUSJAMSTEC North AmericaJAMSTEC Europe

Fall

SON 2019

http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/predictions/long_range/lead02/off02_prcp.gif

SON 2019 NA Precipitation based on JAMSTEC July 1, 2019 Forecast

SON 2019 Europe Precipitation based on JAMSTEC July 1, 2019 Forecast

Winter

DJF 2019-2020

DJF 2019-2020 Precipittion Issued on July 18, 2019DJF 2019 - 2020 NA Precipitation based on July 1, 2019 JAMSTECDJF - 2019 - 2010 Europe Precipitation based on July 1, 2019 JAMSTEC Forecast

Spring

MAM 2020

MAM 2020 precipitation Issued July 18, 2019MAM 2020 NA Precipitation based on July 1, 2019 JAMSTEC ForecastMAM 2010 Europe Precipitation based on July 1, 2019 JAMSTEC Forecast
I thought it would be useful to summarize my comments from the later detailed analysis. Here they are. Fall: They agree on Alaska but not much else. Winter: Some but not much agreement; it is about where the wet anomaly will be. Spring: It is too soon for NOAA to commit beyond Alaska
For Europe it is wet north, dry south. Warm and dry might be a tough combination.

We provided the full NOAA Discussion in Part I. Here is the much shorter JAMSTEC Discussion released on July 17, 2019

Prediction from 1st Jul., 2019

ENSO forecast:

Warmer-than-normal sea surface temperature is observed now for the central tropical Pacific. As predicted earlier, this is similar to the El Niño Modoki-like state. The SINTEX-F predicts the El Niño Modoki-like state will persist until late summer. We need to be careful of its impact, as it may be different from that of the canonical El Niño. Then, the tropical Pacific is expected to return to a normal state by mid-autumn.

Indian Ocean forecast:

As predicted earlier, a positive Indian Ocean Dipole quickly emerged in May and now persists. The model predicts that the positive Indian Ocean Dipole will persist in autumn, and then quickly decay in winter. We may observe co-occurrence of a positive Indian Ocean Dipole and an El Niño Modoki-like state in summer and autumn; this is as we observed in 1994 and 2018. [Editor’s Note: We have been discussing 1993/1994 as the late start to planting reminds us a bit of 1993]

Regional forecast:

On a seasonal scale, SINTEX-F predicts that most part of the globe will experience a hotter-than-normal condition in boreal autumn. In boreal winter, most part of the globe will still experience a warmer-than-normal condition, except for some parts of central U.S.A., northeastern Brazil, Angola, western Africa, and eastern Russia.

As regards to the seasonally averaged rainfall in boreal autumn, a wetter-than-normal condition is predicted for western coastal area of Canada, Mexico, East Africa, southern West Africa, India, most part of Southeast Asia, and southern Philippines. In contrast, some parts of U.S.A., the South American Continent, southern Africa, western Europe, eastern China, most part of Indonesia, and Australia will experience a drier-than-normal condition. Some of them will be partly due to the expected positive Indian Ocean Dipole (see schematic of a positive Indian Ocean Dipole event: http://www.jamstec.go.jp/aplinfo/sintexf/e/iod/about_iod.html). In particular, we notice that Indonesia and Australia may experience extremely drier than normal condition, owing to the expected co-occurrence of a positive Indian Ocean Dipole and an El Niño Modoki-like state. In boreal winter, a wetter-than-normal condition is predicted for Alaska, western coastal area of Canada, eastern U.S.A., eastern Brazil, some parts of East Africa and central Africa, and northern Europe. In contrast, western U.S.A., eastern part of southern Africa, southern Europe, Australia, most part of Southeast Asia, southeastern China, and Indonesia will experience a drier-than-normal condition.

The model predicts most part of Japan will experience warmer- and wetter-than-normal condition in autumn as a seasonal average. In winter, most part of Japan will be still warmer-than-normal condition.

It is useful to look at the forecasts for the Nino 3.4 Index used to determine if the Sea Surface Temperatures meet the criteria for an El Nino(+0.5 C or higher). Here is a brief summary of the Indices of the two Agencies and how they compare. Three of these graphics were presented earlier. We use them again here and add two more to provide a more detailed analysis.

One YearJAMSTEC Two Years
JAMSTEC

http://www.jamstec.go.jp/aplinfo/sintexf/2007/forecast/ssta.nino3.4.fcst.2-yr.1jul2019.gif

CFS.v2CPC-IRI Probabilities
NOAA

CFSv2 spread and bias correct ENSO forecast

July 11, 2019

Comparing the one-year JAMSTEC NINO 3.4 graphic above to a similar period for both the NOAA models, one sees a lot of similarity but differences namely the move towards at least a La Nina Bias in the NOAA proprietary CFSv2 Modle.The IRI/CPC forecast uses different units namely probabilities rather than absolute levels of the NINO 3.4 Index
The so-called Modoki index is interesting because it clearly indicates a Modoki or a Modoki bias throughout the forecast. This index was confusing last month but not this month. It is more positive than the JAMSTEC Nino 3.4 Index throughout the one year forecast and initially is at El Nino Modoki Levels.

We see differences in the pattern of how things may evolve. But what about the SOI. Does it confirm that the Sea Surface Temperatures are causing the atmosphere to react in a way that results in El Nino weather? We address that after the following discussion and a look at the subsurface. .

Indices use a single number to convey information. Sometimes it is useful to look at the forecast Sea Surface Temperatures that correlate to the indices. I believe that the SST’s directly correlate with the JAMSTEC Nino 3.4 Index and their forecast but NOAA uses a variety of tools so it is not so easy to understand exactly how they do their forecast but there is a lot of information on that in their lengthy discussion which was presented in our Part I Report.

NOAAJAMSTEC

https://origin.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/people/wwang/cfsv2fcst/imagesInd3/glbSSTSeaNormMaskInd5.gif

NOAA does not have a MAM 2020 graphic

like the two above to compare with the

JAMSTEC MAM image.

http://www.jamstec.go.jp/aplinfo/sintexf/2007/forecast/ssta.glob.MAM2020.1jul2019.gif
Do not be distracted by the choice of colors by the two agencies. The NOAA graphics are more brilliant but one needs to concentrate on the patterns, not the artistic appeal. For JAMSTEC we have graphics here for each season but for NOAA we do not have a graphic for MAM 2020
I do not see a lot of difference in the Pacific. There is a lot of difference in the North Atlantic and we do not know what to make of that. It would take a lot of study to really assess the differences in these two forecasts of the sea surface temperatures.

Updates from JAMSTEC can be found here. Updates from NOAA can be found here. You have to look for the SST row and go to the right where it says “normalized with mask” and click on E3 which provides the latest model run.

All of these forecasts depend to a large extent on what is known about subsurface temperature anomalies. Here is the latest analysis. Updates can be obtained here.

Equatorial Subsurface

This is a cross-section along the equator. In general, the Equatorial Current moves from west to east. So the warm anomaly moves east and then either “erupts” to the surface due to subsurface ridges that direct the current up or bumps into the coast of Ecuador and is forced to the surface and then drifts west due to the prevailing easterlies. Cool water can enter from the south namely the Humboldt Current/Peruvian current water coming up from Antarctica. So the models are really estimating the timing of the subsurface anomalies reaching the surface. The anomalies are not warmer than the water above them but simply warmer than normal for the current season.
Compared to last month, the more intense part of the warm anomaly is farther east and erupting to the surface. It would appear by looking only at this graphic that this El Nino will very soon revert back to Neutral. But there is some indication that there could be yet another Kelvin Wave and that could extend the life of this El Nino.

Does the SOI confirm that El Nino Conditions apply? The SOI is one measure of the extent to what the atmosphere has been impacted by the Eastern Pacific surface pattern which is measured by the Nino 3.4 Index. After all, we are more interested in the impacts to weather in the atmosphere which impacts populated areas than we are about the temperature distribution of the ocean surface along the Equator in the Pacific Ocean.

SOI Frozen July 19, 2019

The SOI Index is in El Nino territory. This graphic is a 30-day average so it changes slowly. But it is strange that the lowest values of the SOI have occurred as this El Nino is dying. The Active MJO complicates interpreting the SOI Index. Updates to the above “frozen graphic” can be found here.

SOI = 10 X [ Pdiff – Pdiffav ]/ SD(Pdiff) where Pdiff = (average Tahiti MSLP for the month) – (average Darwin MSLP for the month), Pdiffav = long term average of Pdiff for the month in question, and SD(Pdiff) = long term standard deviation of Pdiff for the month in question. So really it is comparing the extent to which Tahiti is more cloudy than Darwin, Australia. During El Nino we expect Darwin Australia to have lower air pressure and more convection than Tahiti (Negative SOI especially lower than -7 correlates with El Nino Conditions). During La Nina we expect the Warm Pool to be further east resulting in Positive SOI values greater than +7).

D. Now we begin our comparison of the NOAA and JAMSTEC Forecasts (Focus on next nine months i.e. three seasons)

In this Update, we compare the JAMSTEC temperature and precipitation forecast maps, which are for the World, with the NOAA temperature and precipitation forecast maps that cover only CONUS and Alaska. We do this primarily for educational purposes.

JAMSTEC works in three-month intervals which correspond to seasons and does not change the selection of months each time they update but does so every three months. At that time they drop one season and add another season further in the future. JAMSTEC provides maps for three seasons and the choice of seasons changes every three months. So for one out of three months, the first season lines up perfectly but this is not that month. So for JAMSTEC, we have Fall (SON), Winter(DJF) and Spring (MAM) and we are using the same for NOAA in the comparison.Thus we are not comparing August but we have analysed August in Part I of this Report which can be accessed here.

I show the NOAA Maps first followed by the JAMSTEC maps. I extract North America from the Worldwide JAMSTEC map and use that to compare with the NOAA Maps. I also extract Europe including parts of North Africa and Western Asia from the Worldwide JAMSTEC maps and include those excerpted maps in the summary table at the beginning of this article.

Now we will compare the maps in that summary but with full-sized maps.

Fall SON 2019

Temperature for NOAA

SON 2019 Temperature Issued on July 18, 2019

And here is the SON 2019 temperature forecast for North America that I extracted from the JAMSTEC World Forecast.

SON - 2019 Temperature based on JAMSTEC July 1, 2019 Forecast

Mostly agreement but JAMSTEC shows a small cool anomaly for Georgia.

And now the JAMSTEC WORLD FORECAST (for this graphic my comments are mostly related to areas other than Alaska and CONUS as those comments appear with the larger graphics above)

http://www.jamstec.go.jp/aplinfo/sintexf/2007/forecast/temp2.glob.SON2019.1jul2019.gif

It is pretty much warm all over. One can see a pattern of a cool Extreme South America, repeated in Africa and perhaps also Australia.

Precipitation

NOAA

http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/predictions/long_range/lead02/off02_prcp.gif

And here is the SON 2019 Precipitation Forecast for North America that I extracted from the JAMSTEC World Forecast.

SON 2019 NA Precipitation based on JAMSTEC July 1, 2019 Forecast

No Agreement here other than Alaska. It is pretty dramatically different.

And now the JAMSTEC WORLD FORECAST (for this graphic my comments are mostly related to areas other than Alaska and CONUS as those comments appear with the larger graphics above)

http://www.jamstec.go.jp/aplinfo/sintexf/2007/forecast/tprep.glob.SON2019.1jul2019.gif

You can see kind of a dry belt at around 40N and again at 30S. Southeast Asia is dry also.

Winter DJF 2019/2020

Temperature

NOAA

DJF 2019 - 2020 Temperature Issued on July 18, 2019

And here is the DJF 2019-2020 Temperature Forecast for North America that I extracted from the JAMSTEC World Forecast.

DJF 2019 - 2020 NA Temperature based on July 1, 2019 JAMSTEC Forecast

Disagreement here. NOAA not only says the Southern Rockies and Texas are warm with high probability but not as high as in the Fall, and JAMSTEC says cool.

JAMSTEC WORLD FORECAST

http://www.jamstec.go.jp/aplinfo/sintexf/2007/forecast/temp2.glob.DJF2020.1jul2019.gif

Eastern Siberia is cool. Part of the British Isles are cool. Southern India is cool. Southern Greenland is cool. Eastern Brazil is cool. There are a few other small cool anomalies but it is mostly warm.

Precipitation

NOAA

DJF 2019-2020 Precipittion Issued on July 18, 2019

And here is the DJF 2019/2020 Precipitation Forecast for North America that I extracted from the JAMSTEC World Forecast.

DJF 2019 - 2020 NA Precipitation based on July 1, 2019 JAMSTEC

There is some agreement here. The West Coast is one place. Definite agreement on Alaska. The big disagreement is the location and orientation of the wet anomaly. NOAA has it across the Southern Tier, JAMSTEC has it from Texas north to northeast into the Great Lakes area.

JAMSTEC WORLD FORECAST

http://www.jamstec.go.jp/aplinfo/sintexf/2007/forecast/tprep.glob.DJF2020.1jul2019.gif

Mostly wet. The Eastern Mediterraneum is dry, Australia is dry and perhaps Eastern Asia is dry near the coast or just offshore.

Spring (MAM – 2020)

Temperature

NOAA

MAM 2020 Temperature Issued July 18, 2019

And here is the MAM -2020 Temperature Forecast for North America that I extracted from the JAMSTEC World Forecast.

MAM 2010 NA Temperature based on July 1, 2019

One might visualize some agreement here where the NOAA EC area is judged cool by JAMSTEC. But JAMSTEC also has the West cool. And part of the Middle Atlantic cool also.

JAMSTEC WORLD FORECAST

http://www.jamstec.go.jp/aplinfo/sintexf/2007/forecast/temp2.glob.MAM2020.1jul2019.gif

The British Isles are mostly cool, Eastern India is cool, Southwest Canada is cool, Eastern Brazil is cool, Southern Greenland is cool. Again southern South America and Africa are cool.

Precipitation

NOAA

MAM 2020 precipitation Issued July 18, 2019

And here is the MAM 2020 NA precipitation I extracted from the JAMSTEC World Map

MAM 2020 NA Precipitation based on July 1, 2019 JAMSTEC Forecast

NOAA is not willing to commit itself other than with respect to Alaska. For JAMSTEC, the Northwest is dry and the Southern Tier is dry and extreme New England is dry. There is an L-shaped wet anomaly North/South from Arkansas to Minnesota and the Dakotas and west to east from Arkansas/Missouri to North Carolina/Virginia.

JAMSTEC WORLD FORECAST

http://www.jamstec.go.jp/aplinfo/sintexf/2007/forecast/tprep.glob.MAM2020.1jul2019.gif

Southern Europe and European Russia are dry. Indochina is dry. Japan is dry. It is hard to see a pattern here but it is supposed to be close to ENSO Neutral.

D. Conclusion

Similar to last month and the prior month, both NOAA and JAMSTEC have forecasts that in one way or another incorporate the ENSO Phase in their forecasts. The focus is on the change in the current weak El Nino and the timing of such changes. It seems that NOAA just does not like calling a westerly displaced El Nino a Modoki.

Slight changes in the ENSO Phase are likely to change the actuals from what has been forecast. I do not have a lot of confidence in either of the forecasts but for different reasons. NOAA may not be properly taking into account the Modoki aspect of the situation and JAMSTEC may be underestimating the speed at which a La Nina bias may develop.

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