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July, 2019 Seasonal Forecasts. Part II, NOAA Comparison With JAMSTEC

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Written by Sig Silber

We published the NOAA Long-Term Forecast Friday Night and it can be accessed here. In Part II (this post), we compare the NOAA forecast for Alaska and CONUS with the JAMSTEC forecast and also attempt to provide some explanation for the differences. The differences in the weather forecasts appear to be related to small differences in the El Nino forecast and how the western displacement of this El Nino was dealt with by the models and the forecasters. Our report provides the JAMSTEC forecasts for the whole World. In parts of the world, the interaction between the IOD and the EL Nino are important and JAMSTEC is experienced in that area. In our report, we also pay special attention to Europe.

NOAA v. JAMSTEC

 


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Prologue

Now we compare the two NOAA forecasts with the JAMSTEC forecast. We do it again later in the article but this comparison may be easier to see. The first image is the Mid-June IRI-CDC ENSO probabilities. The second image is the JAMSTEC proprietary forecast model for the Nino 3.4 Index. The third is the NOAA proprietary model CFSv2.

IRI CDC June 19, 2019

http://www.jamstec.go.jp/aplinfo/sintexf/2007/forecast/ssta.nino3.4.fcst.1jun2019.gif

CFSv2 Corrected

They are not lined up perfectly but one can easily compare them. The models are not that different. But there are some subtle differences. Shown below is an enlarged portion of the JAMSTEC forecast which shows the drop and then rise in the JAMSTEC forecast for Nino 3.4. Later we see the JAMSTEC Modoki Index which may also play a large role in the differences in the forecasts.

We will come back to this graphic later but it may be the key to the puzzle of why that which at first glance may appear to be similar Nino 3.4 profiles result in very different forecasts.

Portion of JAMSTEC Nino3.4 forecast.

I can not say for certain as I do not know how the JAMSTEC model works but it is entirely possible that this forecasted change in slope prior to and then at the start of October 2019 has impacted the forecast. Australia has done research on a related measure the SOI and they have determined that the change in that index is at least as important as the level of that index. So it is not unreasonable to me but I do not have proof that the JAMSTEC model is sensitive to these small changes in the slope of the forecasted Nino 3.4 Index.

C. Now to our full report. (Sections A and B were covered in Part I)

This report is organized into a summary that has two tables of graphics that show the temperature and precipitation forecasts for the upcoming three seasons, a brief discussion of the ENSO assumptions by both NOAA and JAMSTEC and then the JAMSTEC Agency discussion and then a comparison of the two forecasts which is basically an expansion of the summary table.

Summary of the NOAA and JAMSTEC Forecasts

For those who want a quick synopsis of the two forecasts, below is a summary of the temperature and precipitation forecasts for three time-periods and from left to right the NOAA forecast for Alaska and CONUS (the contiguous mid-latitude U.S), then JAMSTEC for North America (which includes Canada and Mexico), and then JAMSTEC for Europe and surrounding areas. Larger graphics are provided later in the report. (the graphics in the Summary Table are not set up to be clicked on to enlarge). The Summary Table is kind of a tease to keep you reading but you can see the evolution of the weather pattern through Summer, Fall, and then into Winter. For some readers, these two sets of summary graphics may be all the information they wish to look at and that is fine.

In addition to the value of comparing the JAMSTEC and NOAA forecasts, the JAMSTEC forecast by showing North America provides more context for the Alaska and CONUS Forecasts as the temperature and precipitation patterns cover North America, not just Alaska and CONUS. Similarly, when I extract Europe from the JAMSTEC World Map, I include enough of North Africa and Eurasia to provide context.

Temperature

 NOAA Alaska Plus CONUSJAMSTEC North AmericaJAMSTEC Europe

Summer 2019

JAS for NOAA

JJA for JAMSTEC

JAS 2019 Temperature Issued on June 20, 2019JJA - 2019 Temperature based on JAMSTEC June 1, 2019 ForecastJJA - 2019 Europe Temperature based on JAMSTEC June 1, 2019 Forecast

Fall

SON 2019

SON 2019 Temperature Issued on June 20, 2019SON 2019 NA Temperature based on June 1, 2019 JAMSTEC ForecastSON- 2019 Europe Temperature Based on June 1, 2019 Jamstec Forecast

Winter

DJF 2019-2020

DJF Temperature Issued June 20, 2019DJF 2019-2010 NA Temperature based on June 1, 2019DJF 2019 - 2020 Europe Temperature based on June 1, 2019
I thought it would be useful to summarize my comments from the later detailed analysis. Here they are. Summer: Fairly similar. Fall: JAMSTEC shows a somewhat cool Southeast while NOAA has everything warm. Winter: Here there is major disagreement.
For Europe, it is warm, warm, warm.

Precipitation

When thinking about the Southwest Monsoon, it is important to remember that the NOAA graphic covers JAS while the JAMSTEC graphic covers JJA. This matters when discussing the Monsoon.

 NOAA Alaska Plus CONUSJAMSTEC North AmericaJAMSTEC Europe

Summer 2019

JAS for NOAA

JJA for JAMSTEC

http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/predictions/long_range/lead02/off02_prcp.gifJJA - 2019 NA Precipitation based on JAMSTEC June 1, 2019 ForecastJJA - 2019 Europe Precipitation based on JAMSTEC June 1, 2019 Forecast

Fall

SON 2019

SON Temperature Issued on June 20, 2019SON 2019 NA Precipitation based on June 1, 2019 JAMSTECSON - 2019 US Precipitation based on June 1, 2019 JAMSTEC Forecast

Winter

DJF 2019-2020

DJF 2019-2020 Issued June 20, 2019DJF 2019-2010 NA Precipitation based on June 1, 2019 JAMSTEC ForecastDJF 2019-2010 NA Precipitation based on June 1, 2019 JAMSTEC Forecast
I thought it would be useful to summarize my comments from the later detailed analysis. Here they are. Summer: Fairly similar but not for Alaska. Fall: No agreement. Winter: Some agreement for the Southeast but not the Southwest.
For Europe it is wet, dry, wet.

We provided the full NOAA Discussion in Part I. Here is the much shorter JAMSTEC Discussion released on June 14, 2019

ENSO forecast:

Warmer-than-normal sea surface temperature is observed now for the whole tropical Pacific. Since the warm anomaly is larger in the central Pacific, this is similar to the El Niño Modoki-like state. The SINTEX-F predicts a moderate El Niño event. This El Niño is more or less of Modoki-type with a peak in late summer. We need to be careful of its impact as it may be different from that of the canonical El Niño.

Indian Ocean forecast:

As predicted earlier, a positive Indian Ocean Dipole has quickly emerged in May. The model predicts that the positive Indian Ocean Dipole will have a peak in autumn, and then quickly decay in winter. We may observe co-occurrence of a positive Indian Ocean Dipole and an El Niño/El Niño Modoki-like state in the latter half of 2019; this is as we observed in 1994 and 2018.

Regional forecast:

On a seasonal scale, SINTEX-F predicts that most part of the globe will experience a hotter-than-normal condition in boreal summer, while some part of central U.S.A, central Russia, and northern Australia will experience a cooler-than-normal condition. In boreal autumn, most part of the globe will still experience a warmer-than-normal condition, except for some parts of southeastern U.S.A., northwestern Brazil, East Africa, eastern Europe and central Russia.

As regards to the seasonally averaged rainfall in boreal summer, a wetter-than-normal condition is predicted for U.S.A., northwestern part of the South American Continent, most part of Southeast Asia, and northern Philippines. In contrast, Mexico, India, West Africa, eastern China, Mongolia, Australia, and most part of Indonesia will experience a drier-than-normal condition. In boreal autumn, a wetter-than-normal condition is predicted for northern part of the South American Continent, East Africa, tropical West Africa, and northern India. In contrast, southern Brazil, eastern part of southern Africa, western Europe, Australia, most part of Southeast Asia, eastern China, Philippines, and Indonesia will experience a drier-than-normal condition. Some of them will be partly due to the expected positive Indian Ocean Dipole (see schematic of a positive Indian Ocean Dipole event: http://www.jamstec.go.jp/aplinfo/sintexf/e/iod/about_iod.html). In particular, we notice that Indonesia and Australia may experience extremely drier than normal condition, owing to the expected co-occurrence of a positive Indian Ocean Dipole and an El Niño/El Niño Modoki-like state.

The model predicts most part of Japan will experience hotter- and drier-than-normal condition in summer and autumn as a seasonal average.

It is useful to look at the forecasts for the Nino 3.4 Index used to determine if the Sea Surface Temperatures meet the criteria for an El Nino(+0.5 C or higher). Here is a brief summary of the Indices of the two Agencies and how they compare. Three of these graphics were presented earlier. We use them again here and add two more to provide a more detailed analysis.

 One YearJAMSTEC Two Years
JAMSTEC

http://www.jamstec.go.jp/aplinfo/sintexf/2007/forecast/ssta.nino3.4.fcst.1jun2019.gif

http://www.jamstec.go.jp/aplinfo/sintexf/2007/forecast/ssta.nino3.4.fcst.2-yr.1jun2019.gif

 CFS.v2CPC-IRI Probabilities
NOAA

CFSv2 Corrected

IRI CDC June 19, 2019

 Comparing the one-year JAMSTEC NINO 3.4 graphic above to a similar period for both the NOAA models, one sees a lot of similarity but subtle differences namely the dip and then gradual rise in the JAMSTEC forecast.The IRI/CPC forecast uses different units namely probabilities rather than absolute levels of the NINO 3.4 Index
 The so-called Modoki index is interesting because it clearly indicates a Modoki for the Summer/Fall. This index was confusing last month but not this month.

http://www.jamstec.go.jp/aplinfo/sintexf/2007/forecast/ssta.ninomdk.fcst.1jun2019.gif

There is not much doubt that the Sea Surface Temperatures in the Nino 3.4 Measurement area will (and already do) satisfy the criteria that El Nino Conditions could exist. We see differences in the pattern of how things may evolve. But what about the SOI. Does it confirm that the Sea Surface Temperatures are causing the atmosphere to react in a way that results in El Nino weather? We address that after the following discussion.

Indices use a single number to convey information. Sometimes it is useful to look at the forecast Sea Surface Temperatures that correlate to the indices. I believe that the SST’s directly correlate with the JAMSTEC Nino 3.4 Index but NOAA uses a variety of tools so it is not so easy to understand exactly how they do their forecast but there is a lot of information on that in their lengthy discussion which was presented in our Part I Report.

NOAAJAMSTEC
https://origin.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/people/wwang/cfsv2fcst/imagesInd3/glbSSTSeaNormMaskInd1.gifhttp://www.jamstec.go.jp/aplinfo/sintexf/2007/forecast/ssta.glob.JJA2019.1jun2019.gif

https://origin.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/people/wwang/cfsv2fcst/imagesInd3/glbSSTSeaNormMaskInd3.gif

http://www.jamstec.go.jp/aplinfo/sintexf/2007/forecast/ssta.glob.SON2019.1jun2019.gif
https://origin.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/people/wwang/cfsv2fcst/imagesInd3/glbSSTSeaNormMaskInd6.gifhttp://www.jamstec.go.jp/aplinfo/sintexf/2007/forecast/ssta.glob.DJF2020.1jun2019.gif
Do not be distracted by the choice of colors by the two agencies. The NOAA graphics are more brilliant but one needs to concentrate on the patterns, not the artistic appeal. The JAMSTEC graphic shows JJA and we compared that to the NOAA JAS graphic which is more meaningful. For Fall and Winter, they line up perfectly.
NOAA shows an El Nino early but not clearly later on and JAMSTEC shows a Modoki. They both show a warm North Pacific. They both show that warm swath from Baja ESE to the Dateline along the Equator which is a characteristic of one Type of a Modoki. NOAA shows no warm tongue extending from Ecuador west along the Equator and JAMSTEC only shows it in their DJF 3019/2010 map.
This is what we see with a marginal El Nino situation.

Updates from JAMSTEC can be found here. Updates from NOAA can be found here. You have to look for the SST row and go to the right where it says “normalized with mask” and click on E3 which provides the latest model run.

All of these forecasts depend to a large extent on what is known about subsurface temperature anomalies. Here is the latest analysis. Updates can be obtained here.

This is a cross-section along the equator. In general, the Equatorial Current moves from west to east. So the warm anomaly moves east and then either “erupts” to the surface due to subsurface ridges that direct the current up or bumps into the coast of Ecuador and is forced to the surface and then drifts west due to the prevailing easterlies. Cool water can enter from the south namely the Humboldt Current/Peruvian current water coming up from Antarctica. So the models are really estimating the timing of the subsurface anomalies reaching the surface. The anomalies are not warmer than the water above them but simply warmer than normal for the current season.
Compared to last month, the more intense part of the warm anomaly is farther east and erupting to the surface. It would appear by looking only at this graphic that this El Nino will soon (two months?) revert back to Neutral with an El Nino bias. But a comparison with last month suggests I am being unrealistic at the rate this plays out. it is taking longer than I thought it would. But the endpoint has not changed…ENSO Neutral.

Does the SOI confirm that El Nino Conditions apply? The SOI is one measure of the extent to what the atmosphere has been impacted by the Eastern Pacific surface pattern which is measured by the Nino 3.4 Index. After all, we are more interested in the impacts to weather in the atmosphere which impacts populated areas than we are about the temperature distribution of the ocean surface along the Equator in the Pacific Ocean.

SOI BOM June 21, 2019

One could make the case as NOAA has that the Atmosphere has coupled with the sea surface temperatures but no longer is tightly coupled. The Active MJO complicates interpreting the SOI Index. Updates to the above “frozen graphic” can be found here.

D. Now we begin our comparison of the NOAA and JAMSTEC Forecasts (Focus on next nine months i.e. three seasons)

In this Update, we compare the JAMSTEC temperature and precipitation forecast maps, which are for the World, with the NOAA temperature and precipitation forecast maps that cover only CONUS and Alaska. We do this primarily for educational purposes.

JAMSTEC works in three-month intervals which correspond to seasons and does not change the selection of months each time they update but does so every three months. At that time they drop one season and add another season further in the future. So for JAMSTEC, we have Summer (JJA), Fall (SON), and Winter(DJF). NOAA provides maps for each three-month period and we start with JAS. JAMSTEC provides maps for three seasons and the choice of seasons changes every three months. So for one out of three months, the first season lines up perfectly but this is not that month. JAMSTEC is still working with JJA and June is almost over. Normally that is not a problem but with a projected late Monsoon, it is a bit of a problem so keep that in mind when looking at the graphics for Summer.

I show the NOAA Maps first followed by the JAMSTEC maps. I extract North America from the Worldwide JAMSTEC map and use that to compare with the NOAA Maps. I also extract Europe including parts of North Africa and Western Asia from the Worldwide JAMSTEC maps and include those excerpted maps in the summary table at the beginning of this article.

Now we will compare the maps in that summary but with full-sized maps.

Summer 2019.

Temperature JAS for NOAA

JAS 2019 Temperature Issued on June 20, 2019

And here is the JJA 2019 temperature forecast for North America that I extracted from the JAMSTEC World Forecast.

JJA - 2019 Temperature based on JAMSTEC June 1, 2019 Forecast

NOAA shows an EC North-Central CONUS but JAMSTEC keeps that same idea but locates it further south and east.

And now the JAMSTEC WORLD FORECAST (for this graphic my comments are mostly related to areas other than Alaska and CONUS as those comments appear with the larger graphics above)

Eastern Russia is cool and so is surprisingly Australia. The other cool areas are fairly small.

Precipitation

NOAA

http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/predictions/long_range/lead02/off02_prcp.gif

And here is the JJA 2019 Precipitation Forecast for North America that I extracted from the JAMSTEC World Forecast.

JJA - 2019 NA Precipitation based on JAMSTEC June 1, 2019 Forecast

Fairly similar for CONUS but JAMSTEC extends the wet anomaly into the Southeast. They disagree on Alaska. There may be some minor disagreement with respect to the East Coast.

And now the JAMSTEC WORLD FORECAST (for this graphic my comments are mostly related to areas other than Alaska and CONUS as those comments appear with the larger graphics above)

http://www.jamstec.go.jp/aplinfo/sintexf/2007/forecast/tprep.glob.JJA2019.1jun2019.gif

Europe is somewhat wet. Africa is dry near the Equator. Southeast Asia is wet but India is dry. Northeast China is dry. Northeast Asia is wet. Australia is mostly dry. Northern South America is wet but Mexico is dry.

Fall (SON – 2019)

Temperature

NOAA

SON 2019 Temperature Issued on June 20, 2019

And here is the SON – 2019 Temperature Forecast for North America that I extracted from the JAMSTEC World Forecast.

SON 2019 NA Temperature based on June 1, 2019 JAMSTEC Forecast

Quite similar but JAMSTEC still shows a Souheast which is cool in parts.

JAMSTEC WORLD FORECAST

http://www.jamstec.go.jp/aplinfo/sintexf/2007/forecast/temp2.glob.SON2019.1jun2019.gif

The Horn of Africa is cool, west of the Baltic Sea is cool, Southern Central Russia is cool and Northern Brazil is cool. Most of the World is warm.

Precipitation

NOAA

SON Temperature Issued on June 20, 2019

And here is the SON – 2019 Precipitation Forecast for North America that I extracted from the JAMSTEC World Forecast.

SON 2019 NA Precipitation based on June 1, 2019 JAMSTEC

Hard to see much agreement here.

We may be seeing the impact of what we discussed in the Prologue namely:

Portion of JAMSTEC Nino3.4 forecast.

SON is different from the prior period and the next period with respect to the Nino 3.4 index as forecast by JAMSTEC.

JAMSTEC WORLD FORECAST

http://www.jamstec.go.jp/aplinfo/sintexf/2007/forecast/tprep.glob.SON2019.1jun2019.gif

Western and Northern Europe are dry. India is now wet. Australia is quite dry. Eastern Asia is dry. Southern Brazil is dry.

Winter (DJF 2019 – 2020)

Temperature

NOAA

DJF Temperature Issued June 20, 2019

And here is the DJF 2019-2020 Temperature Forecast for North America that I extracted from the JAMSTEC World Forecast.

DJF 2019-2010 NA Temperature based on June 1, 2019

Wow. This is a change from warm for NOAA to cool for JAMSTEC other than the West Coast.

Again the slight change in the JAMSTEC Nino 3.4 forecast might be responsible and another way of looking at that is the SST for the Eastern Equatorial Pacific.

http://www.jamstec.go.jp/aplinfo/sintexf/2007/forecast/ssta.glob.DJF2020.1jun2019.gif

That looks more like a typical El Nino pattern than earlier in the forecast.

JAMSTEC WORLD FORECAST

http://www.jamstec.go.jp/aplinfo/sintexf/2007/forecast/temp2.glob.DJF2020.1jun2019.gif

The British Isles are cool, Central Russia is cool, Southern Canada is cool, Brazil is cool, and Southwest China is cool. So is part of Greenland.

Precipitation

NOAA

DJF 2019-2020 Issued June 20, 2019

And here is the NA precipitation I extracted from the JAMSTEC World Map

DJF 2019-2010 NA Precipitation based on June 1, 2019 JAMSTEC Forecast

There is agreement on the Southeast. JAMSTEC shows the Southwest wet and the Northeast dry.

JAMSTEC WORLD FORECAST

http://www.jamstec.go.jp/aplinfo/sintexf/2007/forecast/tprep.glob.DJF2020.1jun2019.gif

Northern and Western Europe are wet but Southern Europe is dry. Brazil is wet but Columbia and Venezuela are dry. Western and Eastern Canada are dry. Southern Africa is mostly wet.

D. Conclusion

Similar to last month, both NOAA and JAMSTEC have forecasts that in one way or another incorporate an El Nino of some sort in their forecasts. But the type of El Nino varies a lot between the two agencies or perhaps it is that NOAA just does not like calling a westerly displaced El Nino a Modoki.

Slight changes in El Nino are likely to change the actuals from what has been forecast. I do not have a lot of confidence in the JAMSTEC Winter Temperature forecast.

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